From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sweeter Emacs Lisp Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:26:48 +0900 Message-ID: <87li5744uv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <8738rh6ftk.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373941623 23431 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2013 02:27:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fgallina@gnu.org, Josh , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: Bozhidar Batsov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 16 04:27:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyuyj-000526-0i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:27:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37829 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyuyi-0001VP-Kj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyuyf-0001V7-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyuyc-0006P0-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.71]:51944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyuyc-0006Oe-7b; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.149.135.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.149.135] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp01.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1UyuyX-0006Ul-5d; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:26:49 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A556E039; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:26:48 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Bozhidar Batsov's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:30:35 +0300") Original-Lines: 17 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-GOL-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 203.216.5.71 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161916 Archived-At: Bozhidar Batsov writes: > I'll also feel it's about time the Emacs Lisp standard library got a > bit of facelift. In a time when most Lisp have embraces `first` and > `rest` where're still clinging to functions named `car` and `cdr` > for instance. Er, what? I dunno about "weird" lisps like clojure, but AFAICS, car and cdr are way more used than first and rest... the latter were half-hearted attempts at making lisp "friendly" but have never seemed to have gotten much traction; whether they're better is at best, arguable... -miles -- Quotation, n. The act of repeating erroneously the words of another. The words erroneously repeated.