From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:27:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87li2o7onv.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379870660 5380 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2013 17:24:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 17:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 22 19:24:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnON-0005St-O4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:24:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnON-0005z9-BN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnOG-0005z1-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnOA-0002eC-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp205.alice.it ([82.57.200.101]:61524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnO9-0002dz-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (95.236.70.6) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 523120E502B222FF; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:23:52 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnRA-0004sB-6r; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:27:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> (Pascal J. Bourguignon's message of "Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:04:38 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.101 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163551 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () "Pascal J. Bourguignon" () Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:04:38 +0200 I must be a genius, or is it really that the level has dropped as much as it is told to have dropped? I think people express themselves less subtly these days. i =3D> everyone feel uncomfortable =3D> hates w/ new keybindings =3D> emacs There is a larger pressure to express stridently, too. That's OK -- in a few years, newbies will have forgotten what a "keyboard" is altogether as Emacs 42 tracks eyebrow twitches and nose flairs. Should make for a more varied set of complaints, one hopes... :-D =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlI/KGkACgkQZwMiJEyAdQL52QCfb59J9MYVc1BEble5nHY1pQoQ 4RwAoKniUNU0AUj1RUxkrgaEJdMVUp4d =jBAy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--