From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:14:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87li2m2wg1.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAAF+z6H+6s6pV8QyiDu6SSaiD4u0BscG5i0iSUOtYoYF-nUWgg@mail.gmail.com
Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Pascal J. Bourguignon
> <pjb@informatimago.com> wrote:
>> What I mean is that perhaps concentrating on keys is the wrong thing to
>> do, vs. concentrating on bindings and the fact that you can configure
>> them as you want, and that the default bindings (foremost the oldest of
>> them) are quite _optimized_.
>
> But they are hard to press. In the Space-cadet keyboard[fn:1], one of
> the early Lisp Machine keyboards, Ctrl key besides the space bar
> (similar to the position of Alt keys on PC keyboards), and Meta to the
> left of Ctrl. So, the Ctrl key is easier to press than Meta. This is
> why, the key bindings for the most used commands in Emacs involve the
> Ctrl key instead of the Meta key, I think. But Ctrl is not easy to
> press now. Yes, we can move the Ctrl key[fn:2], but many new users
> don't know that.
That's the problem. Let's solve it, put that in your .xmodmap:
!------------------------------------------------------------
! Sixth line
!------------------------------------------------------------
keycode 37 = Super_L
keycode 133 = Meta_L
keycode 64 = Control_L
keycode 65 = space space digitspace digitspace
keycode 108 = Control_R
keycode 134 = Meta_R
keycode 135 = Super_R
keycode 105 = Hyper_R
> And some commands that are frequently used, such as {open, save, close
> buffer}, all require multiple keystrokes with the difficult Ctrl key.
>
> Footnotes:
>
> [fn:1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space-cadet.jpg
>
> [fn:2] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com/
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-22 6:18 Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience JMorte
2013-09-22 11:41 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-22 16:04 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 17:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-09-22 18:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 18:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-22 19:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-09-22 17:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 17:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-22 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-22 22:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-09-22 23:59 ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23 0:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 0:28 ` Jay Belanger
2013-09-23 6:03 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 7:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 9:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 9:41 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-23 14:04 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-23 14:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-09-24 13:10 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-09-24 13:14 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-09-24 17:28 ` Davis Herring
2013-09-23 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 10:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 11:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-23 13:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:21 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-23 14:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:49 ` Alp Aker
2013-09-24 12:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 14:11 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 14:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 17:31 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 17:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-24 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-24 19:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-25 15:42 ` chad
2013-09-25 16:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-09-23 16:59 ` Richard Stallman
2013-09-23 5:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-09-24 8:39 ` Juri Linkov
2013-09-23 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-24 12:55 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-09-22 15:32 ` Drew Adams
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