From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tramp test suite and network access Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:25:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87lhuyps3t.fsf@gmx.de> References: <53546D0B.3090406@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398097552 26584 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2014 16:25:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 18:25:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WcH2P-0001F0-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:25:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcH2P-0001J4-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcH2F-0001Gz-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:25:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcH29-0000gj-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:25:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:63185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcH29-0000gc-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:25:29 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.56.125]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhNk6-1WGlrp3HPO-00MYIp; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:25:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <53546D0B.3090406@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:57:47 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:NeWTapXHQ9s9gb6TyeoVZeb4hyNRgKBcFF3OOQ91sx6hCTbcHtd DrWgPX/wlciFBXcZ1RuWCJsaWDsJFuy8kmTrwrSvG7aJSdCD1MYzh9kxUqOy8poxTd0ZFLf VVu0hU01nRQYtwbKRNkWVI8r9REmXzwB3eUUrFNsZBlG3J5b/Ui5/a6KWIpSjXHnFPHZI64 8izL4H8xEh/9GeTlGEkug== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171536 Archived-At: Daniel Colascione writes: > If a host isn't connected to the network, tests > can hang for a long time with no user-visible explanation, Default Tramp timeout is 60 seconds. We could shorten it for the tests if desired. OTOH, often I use fencepost.gnu.org as remote counterpart for the tests, which is useful *because* I have a slow connection to that host. It's useful to see how Tramp behaves on slow lines. > and even if network connectivity is available, ssh to the local system > isn't guaranteed to work, or work without asking for input. Well, that's the default. But Tramp can run without ssh at all. > (The tramp tests constantly ask me whether I want to connect.) Tramp shouldn't ask you; it's the task of `tramp--test-enabled' to check silently, whether the tests must be skipped. What does it ask you? A password? It shouldn't. A passphrase? This we might want to suppress. Something else? Best regards, Michael.