From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87lhotc6lu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <83iokato6x.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq8pwjen.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412629524 30358 80.91.229.3 (6 Oct 2014 21:05:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mark H Weaver , dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 06 23:05:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFT2-0004Qa-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:05:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54405 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFT2-0001yv-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:05:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFSg-0001Px-BD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:04:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFSf-0007fC-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:04:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFSf-0007f8-73 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59214 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbFS6-0004eY-CS; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEEC4E06D7; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:59:09 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:17:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175053 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > However, I would argue that even in Emacs, string<->bytevector > conversions should be strict by default, > > What is a "bytevector"? It doesn't appear in the Emacs Lisp > ref manual, so I suppose it is a concept from Scheme. > How would it relate into Emacs? Maybe your suggestion is a good one. Unibyte string minus the string part. Basically what decoding works from to generate strings and vice versa. But in GUILE, you cannot use string functions on them: they are basically arrays with byte elements. -- David Kastrup