From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:47:38 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87lhmlrcp1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87mw72lyzs.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205190925.GA5067@thyrsus.com> <83h9x93leo.fsf@gnu.org> <20141205205320.GA7237@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417816528 31927 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 21:55:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 21:55:28 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 22:55:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0qO-0007mq-1t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:55:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52613 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0qL-0001mZ-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:55:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0qC-0001jx-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0qB-0000Po-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:55:08 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0q9-0000KT-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:55:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0q6-0007ge-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:55:02 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.31.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:55:02 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:55:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pQbPc+NR8vXVZ5K40zGUVPD0he4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179030 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Eli Zaretskii : >> > Because Texinfo is a barrier in itself, full of ceremony and heavyweight >> > markup. >> >> Nonsense. > > You have Texinfo markup in your fingertips. So do I. The difference > is, I can perform the cognitive distancing act required to see how it > looks to newbies. Apparently you can't. When looking at existing Texinfo source, I get a good idea of how to write Texinfo markup of my own. When looking at AsciiDoc, I have no clue since it is not apparent what is formatting, and what is content. -- David Kastrup