From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 09:24:59 +0900 Message-ID: <87lhkdp5lw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87y4t9m76w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85k31coixa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85oapy5kt6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423095936 12973 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2015 00:25:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 00:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stephen Leake , Emacs development discussions To: =?utf-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien?= Aptel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 05 01:25:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YJAGD-0001T1-Tt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:25:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJAGD-0007qx-20 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:25:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJAFz-0007qq-2P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:25:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJAFy-0007dd-9o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:25:18 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:36576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJAFs-0007Nr-Vw; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 258391C3855; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:25:00 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 06E301A2CF1; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:24:59 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182416 Archived-At: Aur=C3=A9lien Aptel writes: > You can't expect modules to keep up with core global variables. No, you can't. You *can*, however, expect modules to maintain proper namespace hygiene for *symbols*. And *must*: this is the Land of (Emacs) Lisp, where symbols are all global. > At least not for such generic, short variables which shouldn't be > global in the first place. What do you think? I think `Fintern' is your friend. That has worked in XEmacs for the last 15 years. I don't see why it won't work in Emacs.