From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaus Rath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: <87lhaoxig0.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> References: <561B9D87.70504@yandex.ru> <87vb9wcpw9.fsf@esperi.org.uk> <83eggkwdgh.fsf@gnu.org> <83611ww5uc.fsf@gnu.org> <83si4xbi2m.fsf@gnu.org> <878u6pcs74.fsf@igel.home> <83io5tbcye.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnblnzn7.fsf@wanadoo.es> <562E8E51.40006@yandex.ru> <877fm9nuxv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <562EACD9.1030807@yandex.ru> <87y4epmdpr.fsf@wanadoo.es> <562ED468.1010907@siege-engine.com> <87bnblnhfx.fsf@vostro.rath.org> <83a8r5as2g.fsf@gnu.org> <874mhdnel8.fsf@vostro.rath.org> <83mvv442vj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445971319 23958 80.91.229.3 (27 Oct 2015 18:41:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 27 19:41:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr9Br-00067i-Oe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:41:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr9Br-0004QL-62 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57237) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr9Bm-0004NM-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr9Bh-0005he-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:33663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr9Bh-0005hY-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:37 -0400 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73820778 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=MdGkP9dUbcOM6Xx XyjDzFQB0IS8=; b=kv+PamjQvltzsFmivBOaLofevNm9n90mHZe3K883GIJ1aBH VE+AuNGZ/IiL6JnGx71inG91i/CzLUyX/A5QLaamW6To/2AfhjYSTuH0NRBw6H3w F6mHmIZArYipDxcxfkHD2HCdHuTout7x8V/ngnsqIdd9vujKRiRpSk074DqI= X-Sasl-enc: 10DO+XtJratM/bN5Q5ca18TK2PPl8VN9WGMbPYQfLW/R 1445971296 Original-Received: from ebox.rath.org (ebox.rath.org [45.79.69.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 95E18C00019 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from thinkpad.rath.org (thinkpad [192.168.12.2]) by ebox.rath.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB5B9E1A2F for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by thinkpad.rath.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 91496BFE15; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83mvv442vj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:50:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.27 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192749 Archived-At: On Oct 27 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Nikolaus Rath >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:02:43 -0700 >>=20 >> On Oct 27 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> From: Nikolaus Rath >> >> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 20:01:06 -0700 >> >>=20 >> >> My impression that CEDET/Semantic doesn't lack functionality, but >> >> end-user documentation. >> > >> > Detailed bug reports about missing or incomplete CEDET documentation >> > are welcome. >>=20 >> It's hard to provide details about undocumented functionality, if one >> doesn't know which functionality the code provides (since it's not >> documented). > > I guess I've misunderstood you, sorry. You said: > >> Unfortunately, at least for me the "one bit of code" was not at all >> obvious after reading the CEDET documentation. So while I believe that >> any of Global/idutils/cscope would be good enough for the majority of my >> use-cases, I wasn't able to make CEDET use any of them (or maybe CEDET >> uses them, but I'm not actually invoking cedet with M-.?). > > My interpretation of that, perhaps incorrect, was that you tried to > use some functionality and tried to find documentation about it, but > either the documentation was inadequate or completely missing. Well, I followed the instructions in the manual but (as far as I can tell) didn't get support for Global/idutils/cscope. At the time I didn't suspect anything was wrong - until I read here that there ought to be such support. Thus my conclusion that the "obvious bit of code" isn't all that obvious (in both necessity and content). > Based on that interpretation, I suggested that you report what you > tried to figure out from the documentation, but couldn't. I would have expected the documentation to tell me that I need to do something in order to get Global et al support (and ideally also *what* I need to do). Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB