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From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Casting as wide a net as possible
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:03:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh8vjzz8.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87poy7k0f7.fsf@fastmail.com

I’ve been too clever for my own good. My “C1 controls” example
was not properly encoded as UTF-8, and I ignored the warnings
provided by Gnus for this situation. Below is, I hope, my
message as it was intended to appear (all properly encoded as
UTF-8).

Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> writes:
> There are occasional accented words e.g. naïve, borrowed from
> other languages. And also punctuation marks (more common with
> people who use certain word processing software packages that
> automatically replace typewriter quotes with them).
>
> Well, obviously there’s Latin-1 and UTF-8. There’s also
> Windows-1252, which is semi-compatible with Latin-1. You can
> sometimes end up with the Windows-1252 bytes treated as if they
> were Latin-1 C1 controls (and perhaps encoded further into
> UTF-8). There are also older encodings that aren’t used much
> anymore e.g. DOS 437/850, MacRoman, etc.
>
> I¹ve also seen content that was mechanically translated from one
> to another using an 8-bit mapping table, with incompatible
> characters mapped arbitrarily. For example, if you ever see
> something with quotes/apostrophes replaced with superscripts,
> like in this paragraph, this probably means the text originated
> in MacRoman and was translated to Latin-1 with the ³André
> Pirard² mapping.
>
> Anyway, the point is, since non-ASCII characters aren’t
> pervasive, it’s easy to miss noticing that something’s wrong
> with them. For one last demo, this paragraph features UTF-8,
> treated as Windows-1252, and then re-encoded as UTF-8 again.

P.S.  It may be instructive to note that my message was
apparently detected by Gnus as being in some kind of Japanese
encoding.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-15 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10 16:46 Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) John Yates
2015-12-10 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:56 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-10 19:02   ` Casting as wide a net as possible John Wiegley
2015-12-10 19:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:48     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:17         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:19           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:50             ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11  7:09       ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10 19:54     ` covici
2015-12-10 21:21     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-14 13:05     ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-14 16:21       ` raman
2015-12-14 18:21         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  7:08 ` Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) Richard Stallman
2015-12-11 16:14   ` Casting as wide a net as possible raman
2015-12-14 14:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 15:01   ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-14 17:20     ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 17:59       ` Random832
2015-12-14 18:19         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-15 18:12           ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-15 18:54             ` Random832
2015-12-15 19:03               ` Random832 [this message]
     [not found] <<CAJnXXogJywM4xRM9OEF1RKEwOib_G_JJvj=YThhsUwFn6gHviQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<fa45f69a-b8df-46f8-8fda-4735dc34e4dc@default>
     [not found]   ` <<m2d1uenn4h.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]     ` <<83a8pi9l6o.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-10 19:15       ` Drew Adams

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