From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 4K Bugs Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:16:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87lh8hbbab.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <87lh8izb9w.fsf@gnus.org> <87wps2za7o.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451135812 321 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2015 13:16:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 14:16:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aCoi4-0003vy-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:16:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38597 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCoi3-0004xW-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:16:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCoho-0004xN-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:16:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCohk-00012J-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:16:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:61376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCohk-000121-6H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:16:16 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.38.208]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LskKv-1aJfJn0qwD-012LJ9; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:16:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 25 Dec 2015 09:59:00 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PwfjnAxRCHuIG+n8AFxxNbglF5/Azs2t4G/24EADcepNcUCUSHF Khe4W9x/mFEjGqYZGHNYKfYnW0zAvQrF03GOsU+5QRv6b2xkpyoLXnPad984g6dS3QiOiuu Fm2JvvPP3VAVZf3PE9eKXRojwdPiRo/q+5zHEoaV6Xv7zqpfdu6iFgu7BNAFVSkiGksHDcH F3ftEH1YF21MkWXweI5Zg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Jf83h8yzeq8=:Rz+HUqAmadS2HOcltN1wAM l74TvlB8WZYfK8agRZV1zNZ4c73Lzr5whVNuIZKqKEr5Ew55NeULFxx9wXnof6WAY/VOcUS7s Axo2C3aoDVQ3/N7cr0vqUw1RWTC7jJrBBytLYNOe1KcSe2WNH320AFhzi3tFVgHzEYI6qoFsk kaTHgPR8N3ij5YnErslwxoAbLn69Y+4WCGo+4nXearqqsh8WU2WQA6fhBxrMXjcGxOgSJ8hHT 3VxeNcoMIEZsgoDUX2Pa7HmW+zUm2whJ4DFJbC1UYMwzgqjOSIWc86GRGiDxk+DTj7/Fcyn0T RZzFoG0gJmuEg4H/hphP8YBqfpMH7nxuyPxXch6b5DIggTkCpbzcqnxoFbL9bBOD4uYUxKgP4 ingvgS2p+8Auu9Z2bjRQIMaunHCYxNR/Ixm2QzzSgh/OfFq4C+9ifBGv2wZHZul1RP3gkC9JD 0PWxSWwJ1gggvi4JOHO6Ewr+aJjROvwXXuYHY1SR/qRakfUIGSX7VSzItiYg+3bH7/wk7VKrs F0xahi6ARZe0FNAKcV/5wOcyzKyokZWqSnwve2o+gfJc1pXcTKMfH38HZyFmbcojdU/9Hg7a3 N0NtqSqft84BksfjZ1Qfz2NDah+0k6AjIL9ryCeGkJ8MOE0SHDSkZNnqNRyK/hE9FqGpkTpRu tijQeWRf5dGDPqvP3QQAI8Jfwng7M+n5GIGfANAdA1qxh+rTkN1ENMG1NRegPcNW8mNw5AN/C jEcpV2Xd9yX3YJC6dO6cX6sdEpQx8OoNe9c/xl2+dDCUQmtg+zf13DZiWmqYMcMTHK0Oxv32 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196888 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >>> And *that* is what I want to fix. :) > >> Fix bugs or fix users? Is that the choice? :-) > > If moving debbugs to Emacs today will increase our bug fix rate, then let's do > that. But longer term, I'd like ELPA to be a nicer experience so that no such > invisible barrier exists. As a first step, we might give it a more prominent place in admin/notes/bugtracker and doc/emacs/trouble.texi. Will do. Best regards, Michael.