From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please post older versions of GNU Emacs manuals on the web Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:55:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87lh87j5kb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <1e249214-6831-4c2b-98a4-d16a6d1d7048@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451818544 2730 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 10:55:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 11:55:43 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgK7-000221-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:55:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41242 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgK6-0003ew-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 05:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgJs-0003ep-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 05:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgJn-0008A9-S2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 05:55:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgJn-0008A5-Ok; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 05:55:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34814 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aFgJg-00059f-UB; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 05:55:17 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 738C9DF5B8; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 11:55:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Sat, 02 Jan 2016 19:57:11 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197435 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > >> In addition, I think the text about defadvice was deleted from the >> manual too soon. Just because it is no longer the recommended >> interface is no reason to remove it from the Lisp manual. > > OK, since there seems to be general agreement, how about we pull > defadvice back into the manual for 25.1, with a note that has been > deprecated. That seems to make sense. However, Raman stated that nadvice does not work for a number of use cases he currently uses defadvice for. That hole needs to be filled in some manner eventually, or we will never be justified in completing deprecation. -- David Kastrup