From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: replacing ldefs-boot.el Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:16 +0000 Message-ID: <87lgvi20cz.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87bmxa6o37.fsf@russet.org.uk> <871sxc3tw4.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481716420 27830 195.159.176.226 (14 Dec 2016 11:53:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 12:53:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87o-0006A5-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 12:53:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87t-0002ty-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87m-0002pB-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87h-0002DG-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:20191) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87h-0002Cp-Ka for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:53:25 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1208C4213 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Original-Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A63C40BD for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (unknown [31.216.48.128]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05136C3F88 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:00 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Bl87cb8tZcrQYwcpwFj83EJkzOsRXqN0nimSyJ0BjAE=; b=VfykFb9Aq+uebY1v/vr5Zji4o 5GrtuDt5difrI1cVeOV5JO4FWcHP8ZDSbHpyj7B5qz7EBJAJh2zfyDu7zLHK9Hc9x0wnagUTg+BE+ U+cQ7dApy250Ga7Utrq3KIqjVN50+amAu410Zy1uOvKqDMI3pgigJcaCpj0AdyDIFXnakJhkxcRJD 2S2sJ1fiuBQEUmfcRCNpj+ke0vKUhaE8sE1ESFhKeC3uAbA4pDwT0WGzwreG9T6obB3TzD5BQPERQ 47TF2kR6fZvkIY7f6XIJqAD4EeMdohzwYq3o20kqqCaybKsfZ4wYpZkzCqAmVpeycpUgr1JKIZKAw 96Nf8Jazg==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:33281 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cH87e-001ajA-Co; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:53:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Noam Postavsky's message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2016 09:02:02 -0500") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 185.116.214.213 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210444 Archived-At: Noam Postavsky writes: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Phillip Lord > wrote: >> >> Just revisting this; I believe this code is complete now, and I'd like >> to merge to master (after squashing). > > Oh, that reminds me, I had wanted to ask if a *full* bootstrap was > really necessary for running admin/ldefs-clean.el, wouldn't the > bootstrap-emacs be enough? That's possible. Likewise generate-ldefs-boot depends on "all" because it needs a new loaddefs.el to bootstrap while generating ldefs-boot-auto. Probably building to bootstrap-emacs is enough for the former, and loaddefs.el is enough for the later. The reason that I didn't do this is because there are no top-level targets for building to those levels; using recursive make calls to src and lisp seemed fragile to me, and a gives a performance gain for something that is likely to only be run rarely. Phil