From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Edward John Steere Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CEDET Merge Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:51:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87lgu7djkb.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87r348ul9n.fsf@gmail.com> <87lgugm2qg.fsf@gmail.com> <87inpelu8i.fsf@gmail.com> <837f5uajlk.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8aqlqz8.fsf@gmail.com> <878tqawy2k.fsf@engster.org> <871sw2lp1i.fsf@gmail.com> <874m0ywvxa.fsf@engster.org> <9787CBF8-9449-4EE6-B3E3-72781A9D0861@gmail.com> <87vatdv1jy.fsf@engster.org> <5e4c1ef7-7698-1b34-0815-05420456362f@yandex.ru> <87fukhv0cr.fsf@engster.org> <8760lddpvy.fsf@writequit.org> <87pojldjdt.fsf@gmail.com> <877f5suj4g.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1484848927 23430 195.159.176.226 (19 Jan 2017 18:02:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lee Hinman To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 19:02:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUH1z-00052n-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:01:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50136 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUH23-00069V-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 13:01:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48965) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUGsR-00078f-O0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:52:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUGsO-0005L6-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:51:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x242.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::242]:36466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUGsO-0005Kn-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:51:56 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x242.google.com with SMTP id r126so624183wmr.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:51:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Gb+6a2nCnDCGGXEbSnd69eZeDahDGYMbuAv+nvOqElc=; b=YRsYzE59+8JcOQWiFJHrj4eAOXUoC/omEg2TXTmbZOUQvaUHj4dQksAjQBl3+YIu0P oLBkH8HHPrUJ5DqxK5QXMCzhf2k0BLAwxYaDl/NXwE6fMISfpUPX7ouqXmHRv6SF0S3X my5PLPo0hNqdKU+IgWKmVkYzBKCn/0bkTeTeiPQNPA2aDLvGek7afZcIzNXAwJoNVZTH j0NEmtVUpj/8S12xgCjM832m+sqv+fr7bhL7BpkmY6KN3ymBriLwPiIAPFFxdWsAYwTY 2xAt8c1TuKUMDRY5L+d6LT1TbnsRufI0CgOVO/F6s01HuR58nCDWqbFbVtkOtUYxqGg3 j6iw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Gb+6a2nCnDCGGXEbSnd69eZeDahDGYMbuAv+nvOqElc=; b=gW3CLoDZLWU0AhSBljjiv6WcglMyOPoj1qQpMupz2VHinqyb3mv4bRl2giPiNyTock N3gOR24/sZ/ywCBGBmWvHXMyzuC8QCIse/pB5FY8vp5jz0tKzOs8r0MTw1H/CeP8ZdCJ jhtiSv+R2LFTG9MGED8TilJqaqv9ZZQNBZEmjkZfQHrl3YwT/c5FSH4o19662IwdQzbE Yd4SbudTm6XuN/87Hx+7lxs+olFHEzM82E1Ps2xX51tsVh0SXDdY8OLlbvw9JyHGShWg iNb/1jPrqnhEtTxhgiuDr5lU91qp8+Q4JyKWptFZX5MsCHlMrBzufCEVRFfKO1oXxDcd JSPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ4IFqw3fnBCQiOcc8jdJ35bsXMnQLsN//xONcPQGhq6CtDLc5dFGdTcHU22l6Kjg== X-Received: by 10.28.98.66 with SMTP id w63mr28042307wmb.142.1484848315042; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:51:55 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from edward ([41.193.194.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w126sm7364327wmw.0.2017.01.19.09.51.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:51:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877f5suj4g.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:57:03 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::242 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211407 Archived-At: > My worry is indeed feature creep. The CEDET merge fell behind because I > couldn't keep up with the changes in Emacs, most notably the switch to > git and the extensive changes in EIEIO. The code base is very large and > complicated, so I'm against adding more code to Emacs core. Alright. I'll get to work on porting the tests again and limit the tests which I merge to those which will be relevant to the components which will end up in core. > Instead, we > should try to make it more modular and put support for certain languages > and project types into separate ELPA projects. This would also make it > easier to share maintainership of CEDET. > > -David I couldn't agree more on this point. I also think that many users are itching to improve the aspects of CEDET which they use and that a move like this would make strides in making the project accessible to those kinds of contributions. Let's get this merge done so that we can get cracking on the ELPA projects too! :-)