From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87lgddgaga.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87lgdpphmm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sh7mjd7d.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524500431 22388 195.159.176.226 (23 Apr 2018 16:20:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 18:20:26 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeCS-0005bq-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:20:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeEZ-00058p-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeDt-00058T-SW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeDq-0007Z6-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:59729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeDq-0007XH-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:21:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=F+YXWdMfEtGlgBEOM6QY6MwXc9Cr68UN/TpmN49qZkQ=; b=TQP784r1+Uxj/z9prspWcD/4i cs6A5f3IT/0pNkG6shlHbAuxsiV+qWvtj9SuH2SgzA6pieDzSC6UE05i1tCkWKBbfClyvKZPoGipt xX3zEq/oJhwaNeXCBhkGS+RBECQDLqNRYdNbAfxb3Nl5WOYY4SsRiHMt74rIqJI30x38sa/t9a06A uTInayxFYFtd0fgmPMwzDYkJb4MCoiqJCcJPNU0Sw3e6NZBte5R3/XlGBtW7cnhT3IZBNXJJbxB3F l2HbopO+onBKEu9GH3QluWj0ijZRGF1vud6UPWsoim66+3FI1/cR/+85JT+ZWKMZbKp6dR7Us+a4E 7WYu5o9cg==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:37721 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fAeDl-001lm7-Oc; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:21:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:21:49 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224814 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Assuming (2) achieves all that, from the core maintainer's perspective, >>> what's the difference? The downside is they have two repos to deal >>> with, and the interactions between the two to always consider (e.g., do >>> we branch all of ELPA to match Emacs branches (probably not), or write >>> all ELPA packages to work on any Emacs branch (probably), etc.). >> There is actually a problem here with the way the ELPA is structured, >> since it already uses branches for (some) packages. This is not going to >> marry easily with the use of branches for something else. > > Rather than a problem I see it as a defining aspect of whether a package > should be in elpa.git or in emacs.git, since the whole point of having > "unbundled packages" is so that their release schedule is not tied to > that of Emacs. Not sure I understand. If I have a package on master in ELPA, and I want to main one version for Emacs-26 and another for Emacs-27, how do I do this? The obvious solution is to put in a branch. But now I have branched all the other packages to. For externals, we can do this, although we can't call it "emacs-26" or "emacs-27" because someone else will have that branch. Phil