From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87lfrusaxu.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87d0dbszjn.fsf@mbork.pl> <8736e4titj.fsf@mbork.pl> <871rtoti9w.fsf@mbork.pl> <87v9qysxbb.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="112804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: VanL , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 21:57:44 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ibslM-000TDJ-LT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:57:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibslK-0005Gi-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:57:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibslC-00059m-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibskx-00064s-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:57:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:54956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibskw-000618-Hg; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA9DE6D77; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:57:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQV6sxBv8rEy; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:57:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (jeden09-dwa27.echostar.pl [213.156.109.227]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58A94E65B2; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:57:01 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243018 Archived-At: On 2019-12-02, at 19:07, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> this is a very shady area - after all, disallowing reuse would put >> a stop to much of artistic creativity - but I would at least expect >> a modified version to be (a) easily distinguishable from the original >> and (b) prepared in such a way that the differeneces between the >> original and the modified version are visible without specialized tools >> (like diff). From a cursory examination, GFDL secures (a), but not >> necessarily (b). > > If you want to update an old textbook, I can definitely agree to stating > clearly the original book from which you started, but I see no need to > include a clear separation of what you changed (it might be nice to > include a brief summary, maybe, but I see no reason to request it from > the license). Well, I would expect e.g. all changes marked by footnotes or something similar. > Similarly, how/why would you list the differences for a translation of > the book (other than "translated from Foo by Bar")? This is a different thing - and most probably requiring a green light from the original author. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl