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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249893 Archived-At: On Mon, May 11 2020, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:08:25AM +0200, Joost Kremers wrote: > > [...] > >> You can use `let*` to lay out such structures in a way that >> make >> them more readable. `->` and `->>` are even better [...] > > In *your* frame of reference, perhaps. Yes, obviously. Perhaps I could have made that clearer. > As long as we don't accept all that there are different > approaches > and give up on the "mine's better (or 'more modern' or 'more > Lispy' > or whatnot) than yours" the discussion is bound to go in circles > (at best) or to hurt feelings (at worst). Well, as I said, I like Lisp for its practical nature and it's a good thing that it offers more than one way of doing things. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments