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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250436 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The choice between the syntax ($ (+ $1 $2)) > and the syntax #(+ %1 %2), I think it is a small difference. > If one is ok, the other is ok. > > The # syntax has the small advantage of being a little shorter. > > The $ syntax can be implemented now with a macro -- but if we want this > feature, I see no reason to hesitate to do implement it in the reader, > no need to use a macro. It would not be a lot of work to do that. I would go for the macro syntax because is could be made backward compatible with Emacs-27 (as seq.el was with Emacs-24), which the reader macro cannot. I also think that if this goes anywhere, Emacs core is the place to be. Phil