From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Always-true predicate? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265249 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > And then we have this annoyance from "C-h v" as well: > > read-extended-command-predicate is a variable defined in =E2=80=98simpl= e.el=E2=80=99. > Its value is > #f(compiled-function > (s b) > #) > > That's not very useful display for a user option. That's what prompted my query about adding something like `always'. (Although I've been missing the predicate for years.) I think using function values in user options is fine -- the Emacs developers can never get cover all behavioural permutations that people would like to see, so allowing them to supply their own code is helpful. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no