From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 09:44:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87lfbbmd52.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <874kknp1lq.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7crozt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26276"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 26 09:48:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lFYnQ-0006iH-Ds for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 09:48:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53758 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFYnP-0003RW-FF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 03:48:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFYk8-0000dJ-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 03:45:00 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:51830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFYjy-0000nj-W9; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 03:44:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5chjwbV5RNKTyXLzS6Vb7tLANNZ5zfpfmmB2qTvVq9E=; b=Pjc5TPblrDFWtKsMTnPTo5i2Dp yaITfO5C2DFD0wlxfeeOjFw1X6dVRSsmkdyL0ESzcTdXH9X3QzzmItCbvZZdvxPOD9o6J54NvUGvx ta07JoBgtvoI8ggpTCIEZFJztDTm8OiGsOflLAjFWE+EuHM0fXBAyUseYQMoIsc5r+As=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lFYjq-0000QG-IT; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 09:44:45 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIGNIUk0AAHomAACAhAAA+gAA AIDoAAB1MAAA6mAAADqYAAAXcJy6UTwAAAAPUExURWtmYVRRT4mVmDw7PP////P55/4AAAABYktH RASPaNlRAAAACXBIWXMAAABkAAAAZAAPlsXdAAAAB3RJTUUH5QIaCCski1mMCgAAAEZ0RVh0UmF3 IHByb2ZpbGUgdHlwZSBhcHAxMgAKYXBwMTIKICAgICAgMTUKNDQ3NTYzNmI3OTAwMDEwMDA0MDAw MDAwM2MwMDAwCszIdZsAAAFdSURBVDjLlZQBbsMwCEU/6QVAvkCbEyzK/e824IPtat2kWW2i+vn7 A8YFOBT7MLN4iZn6Z82rEMQCCSDx4zjPp6+dK1yi+fP00YrcM4CkwCUNHKm4UCkIyQ5gP0FYQBwe BC+C2NsyiAalEDA+K++zw+2MGIvPH2gPuRU0d/DEMc0fDSKTJzoP0XFHuMpUgPZwMDITYVX8bXza HSUR8/UVxQRXgktzE7FZxPsLQ2U4wDCCNBuWIBSQoUsxPNC7QASdiqiHe09FuPB8oI+L9eBWNoEv ZojsCEt3WlSvsFaywFUAvaD7SuspugHl4SEaa9iSIJoww4jwr7UZjM0W38oDpZgjKqFTsgHXVkLY gVyGbn7aerWy1TvxWoqZiTd1Z76bI3vUdsWKqhvr30B+AYz2o0L/8uBdkp785PEOtG9fFL6PrP4/ 6qhqVXUs7x93WjebZwfDmllj3lp7n/XxDYmYLb8YmhOyAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIx LTAyLTI2VDA4OjQzOjM2KzAwOjAwBB/U1QAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMi0yNlQw ODo0MzozNiswMDowMHVCbGkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Oliver Cherer's _Sir Ollife Leigh & Other Ghosts + A Millying & Mor EP_: "The Dead" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:03:26 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265667 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I think the solution is to have toolbars inside the window's text, > rather than attached to the frame. Yeah, I think that's the way forward. Having the toolbar in the window will allow much greater flexibility, and allow users to switch the toolbar on in modes where it makes sense. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no