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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273692 Archived-At: Alex Benn=C3=A9e writes: > I've switched to running feature/pgtk on my daily driver to kick the > tyres and see how things work. However I wonder about how this new code > deals with a failing desktop environment. When I start up I still get > the warning: > > Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/221 > Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is une= xpectedly lost. > Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid does not have t= his problem. > > which doesn't inspire confidence. I've just taken down my Wayland/sway > session due to an unrelated bug and while I could see emacs --daemon > processes running the server socket in /run/user/1000/emacs had > disappeared. So a quick question: > > - Is the pgtk branch meant to address this longstanding issue? I don't think any program can "address" this long-standing issue, as long as said program uses GTK+, which dies whenever a display connection closes underneath its nose. Some time ago, I worked on a port of feature/pgtk to GTK+ 4, which exhibited the same problem. I'm not quite confident that situation will change any time soon.