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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Qiantan Hong <qhong@mit.edu>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Question: loading code when two packages are load?
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 23:25:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf46gysp.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <174C424B-3A6E-46E9-B8B5-FCC7C756F22B@mit.edu> (Qiantan Hong's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2021 02:05:50 +0000")

On 09 Sep 2021, Qiantan Hong wrote:
>> - Put the code inside an `with-eval-after-load`.
>
>Thanks! This looks like exactly what I need.
>I don’t understand why the manual says
>"well-designed Lisp programs should not use with-eval-after-load”
>and advocate for using require though. 
>Isn’t with-eval-after-load exactly the lazy counterpart of 
>require?

TIL ("Today I Learned") about `with-eval-after-load'!  It's a good 
day :-).

>> Would the "autoload" facility solve this problem?
>
>To my understanding autoload triggers file loading when function 
>invoked,
>while in my case I need to invoke function on file loading 
>(to augment the behavior of that file).

Ah -- I should have read more slowly and thoroughly to grok this, 
sorry.

>It sounds like after-load-functions (although eval-after-load 
>works as well
>because we just need to target some specific packages),
>but somehow manual says it’s an “abnormal hook” which I don’t 
>really understand.
>
>The Hooks for Loading info section seems to try very hard to
>talk people out of using itself.

Heh.  When using one of those facilities that Emacs has yet 
discourages the use of, I usually put a comment explaining why 
it's really the only solution for that particular situation and 
how therefore this is one of those rare *appropriate* uses.

Best regards,
-Karl



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-09  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-08 16:06 Question: loading code when two packages are load? Qiantan Hong
2021-09-08 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-09  2:05   ` Qiantan Hong
2021-09-09  3:31     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-09  4:25     ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2021-09-08 21:44 ` Karl Fogel

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