From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 17:09:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf2pcapp.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <87czo3pgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e9412d60db82df@heytings.org> <87o87moopl.fsf@gnus.org> <19fca5d18b63e6eff5de@heytings.org> <87wnmaiida.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgr6gw9s.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1chhhkh.fsf@gnus.org> <871r4hf83m.fsf@gnus.org> <87fssxds6n.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20908"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 19 18:31:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcs18-0005Hn-BM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:31:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcs17-0007Yw-5b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50640) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcqkh-0003Wt-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 11:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:54372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcqkf-00035C-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 11:10:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uBcG9g+hnx4TuXOPb9OPzZlDR3WQzLvnghhrnD0rGC4=; b=Kv0fDlyPeO6rB1BU8szXkgmz1h FmXbwQ3lUXlk0dF6rQ0GjkJgBb4eX2Sd3z58ytbLuWTeXehWXw6iZ3AOyMj/SVT9OdZ2W0AmIOzTX LDHAqhC+5nRJBBe2mxctohY/ya2vpBBHzJ9fO0FW5lml/zEbhOhuTBCH7YytT0vXeSU8=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcqkZ-000765-Aa; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 17:10:01 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEX9/Pzg1dfGqbmI hmzaYp3FJjj///8CDSF2AAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+UKEw8IFrUQuCUAAAGsSURBVDjL ldTLtqsgDABQ9LRzH3UOaOdXsXMrcX5akv//lZNYtVg7uVmrj8WWJKCo1H9E9n04tRJmx6nmrx9n ratbZSJoBlEn0Sq9DCY2L2CIUm3QdTWByTYw2wxbEwVnk1wi2yDtVIkX37m14AreqhRVrZO1zaVG FWy2h9dvSsGagu6+3eCV6sqQF9j4tviNIeF+bFZi5k2CMZwFTI2cKiUdwVWgqwFDXdIjAiJCY+s7 hKIkfHeVMjxl5RBMSfSG8woYnKOliEDFMFp7Y2h5w4YNrgJ1NnGqtpzod4NpnqEnGkPH8IgBwXVA nhzQB0yEHm7zn8d2r1/QC2D/Cd4BgOcLbnsguDHAFCCeIe2CzADocW1XLQtcgJuKQLYEUGpIt8vK JU4Co+8nN8P7qU0E7r73AaWP6KGV+6EngJvAM4JqAXpUce25CA5XsF1bxSXmXDieQQvEmaRhhB/Q kmrYgWJIGdoK9+PqhJAx3Cv9AeoCusn7UR0inbcQjnCaZLO+wGXqefx5hMKOjbX/Dq+FhJ+SxjZ5 bnOzNz6p/Cn4vObZMV8yH+TlSvU9/gCklH3ZeHfYXQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0x MC0xOVQxNTowODoyMiswMDowMGJD+CwAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTAtMTlUMTU6 MDg6MjIrMDA6MDATHkCQAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Art of Noise's _Noise in the City (Live in Tokyo, 1986)_: "Paranoimia" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:45:46 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277387 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> kbd-define >> kbd-define-map > > Since we're in the bikeshedding part of this, let me throw some ideas: > > - The name `define-key` might be tolerable because it "defines" the behavior of > a given key, but I find it shouldn't say "define" but rather something > like "set" or "put" since it behaves much more like `setq`, `aset`, > `put`, `puthash`, ... That's a really good point. So `kbd-set'? > - I really don't like `define-keymap` because "define" usually gives > a definition to a name, but here there's no name. I'd prefer > something that says "make" or "create", or even just `keymap` (in the > tradition of reusing a type/class name as the name of the function > that constructs objects of this type). I went with "define" since `make-keymap' was taken. But if we're switching stuff around, then perhaps... `kbd-make'? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no