From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:24:22 +0000 Message-ID: <87lf09gye1.fsf@gnus.jao.io> References: <87ilvgwfor.fsf@telefonica.net> <83a6grx1o9.fsf@gnu.org> <834k6zwvi1.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7azilmu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfujh4a2.fsf@yahoo.com> <877dbuhm6j.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tueyg5gc.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lf0a2uq0.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7aytedn.fsf@telefonica.net> <83mtkqrz14.fsf@gnu.org> <87czlmta12.fsf@telefonica.net> <871r22cew7.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16032"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:hO7HtcqVSJ+9zY5bwLgTSSNrQ7s= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 05:09:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0yMj-00046G-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 05:09:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0yMi-0004pd-0M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 23:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0yLy-000492-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 23:08:18 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:56730) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0yLw-0001KO-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 23:08:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0yLr-00032m-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 05:08:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Attribution: jao X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-URL: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283174 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 24 2021, Po Lu wrote: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> So I can hardly imagine a typical Emacs user that could make a big >> issue about the menus or dialogs being a bit different from what his >> platform's standard ones are, as long as the replacement is not ugly >> ("ugly" in the sense the motif menu is ugly compared to Lucid and >> GTK.) > > The Lucid menu was mostly designed after the Motif menu. They also look > mostly identical. Anyway, the reason support for those toolkits was > added is that people care for them, and that's also why nobody uses the > no-toolkit build anymore. i use it. and have been using it for the last 20 years. i want an emacs with graphical capabilities but i don't use any toolkit element ever. i wish you'd be as nice with the non-toolikit option as you've been with the motif one, if possible. thanks, jao -- There are no whole truths; all truths are half-truths. It is trying to treat them as whole truths that plays the devil. -Alfred Whitehead