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From: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 5c532fe303: Recommend that the user turn off memory overcommit
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:42:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lewfbsa0.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874k33snvb.fsf@yahoo.com>


Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Why? We recommend doing just that in many places when a kernel parameter
> interferes with the normal behavior of Emacs, especially in
> etc/PROBLEMS, with exec-shield and ASLR.

	These features prevent Emacs from building, and I’d argue,
constitute evidence of bugs in Emacs, as it’s operation is at odds with
standard and necessary computer security. The wording in etc/PROBLEMS
echoes this sentiment.

	Your proposal crosses a line into how people should administer
their systems even when Emacs functions as expected within the context
of that system. ie, if I’m on Linux, overcommit is standard and I
presumably know how to deal with it or am ignorant of it. In either
event it is not the place of my text editor to tell me that memory
overcommit is bad. There are countless opinion pieces on the web that
will do that job just fine, should I seek them out.

-bjc



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-08 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <164941780605.21656.13343783431945268284@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20220408113647.815ACC051D6@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-04-08 12:58   ` master 5c532fe303: Recommend that the user turn off memory overcommit Stefan Monnier
2022-04-08 13:23     ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-08 13:31       ` Po Lu
2022-04-08 13:42         ` Brian Cully [this message]
2022-04-08 13:57           ` Po Lu
2022-04-08 15:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-08 19:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-08 13:46         ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-09  0:23           ` Po Lu
2022-04-09  1:28             ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-04-08 19:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-09  4:17     ` Richard Stallman
2022-04-09  5:51       ` Tim Cross
2022-04-09  8:42       ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09  9:08         ` Po Lu
2022-04-09 10:08           ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09 10:27           ` Achim Gratz
2022-04-09  9:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-09 10:28           ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-09 10:41             ` Eli Zaretskii

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