From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Cully Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patches for elpa-admin Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:05:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87lew61ixz.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> References: <874k2x8jhb.fsf@posteo.net> <87czhiddc7.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31926"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.6.10; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 17:12:02 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfNc8-00081l-HS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:12:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39792 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfNc7-0006ov-8K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfNbI-00069D-Hz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from coleridge.kublai.com ([166.84.7.167]:54450 helo=mail.spork.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfNbD-0001GA-W3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:11:08 -0400 Original-Received: from ditto (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1b9:8650:a942:ec5e:856b]) by mail.spork.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 937223CCE; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:10:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=spork.org; s=dkim; t=1650035425; bh=MD6yeB3SZVYT69doR+hxXY1sVluHgpUKVGUpwsFxoZs=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-reply-to; b=UKGQt5hhn3ID69SOr9Vra1/6dL/ZwycMrxCfdwEu9xhQ+HwNv7AUpkj59lrNQtzM7 lj/HOKd9vJDRh9LXIv35uu8t0J6pUlLJX1Qz3/3XojjCztI9hSBDCbE1s0jqBK/CQf CzFUNLLSF4I/7cIilSp76jngwt7G4XzgvdSGaX+g= In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=166.84.7.167; envelope-from=bjc@spork.org; helo=mail.spork.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288443 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I have actually been looking into implementing a TRAMP backend that >> would tunnel all communication through a Guix shell. I think in that >> case Flymake should be able to make use of that. > > That sounds nice. We'd need a solution that can be made to work > "everywhere", so the API should be sufficiently generic that it can make > use of various sandboxing systems. I would love a system that can handle this in a container-agnostic manner. The primary wrinkle I can see right now is that while =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 will happily spin up and use an env= ironment from scratch, other containers treat those as separate steps (eg, FreeBSD jails need to be installed on disk before a =E2=80=98jexec=E2=80=99 can be = issued in them). I suppose, even Guix needs to have a manifest of some sort to run =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 against, which is /sort of/ like the insta= ll phase of jails, if you squint hard enough. -bjc