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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298520 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-24 20:34:31] wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-24 15:35:42] wrote: >>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >>>>>> One thing I recently noticed are :url entries of the form >>>>>> "bzr::https://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/org-edna-el" >>>>>> >>>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>>> "hg::https://hg.savannah.nongnu.org/hgweb/enwc/" >>>>>> >>>>>> How are these handled? I couldn't find anything specific to this in >>>>>> elpa-admin.el. Is this a Git feature? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it's a Git feature. Git will use the `git-remote-FOO` extension to >>>>> access those repositories. In my experience it tends not to work super >>>>> reliably and those extensions aren't installed in `elpa.gnu.org` so we >>>>> don't auto-update from those repositories. >>>> >>>> That also means that these repositories should either be filtered out >>>> from elpa-packages.eld or the format should indicate that VC backend is used. >>> >>> The current format will work for those users who have the corresponding >>> `git-remote-` adapter installed, but yes I guess we need to >>> refine a bit what we mean by a "URL". Currently it's actually not >>> really a URL but the "name" of a Git repository, tho it happens to look >>> very much like a URL. >>> >>> Maybe we could use something like >>> >>> `:url (hg "https://hg.savannah.nongnu.org/hgweb/enwc/")` >> >> Looks fine in principle, Would this only apply to non-Git repositories >> that just happen to look like a URL? > > All non-Git repositories have such a URL, AFAIK, but yes, we'd use that > for all non-Git repositories (all 3 of them :-). Another possibility would be to add another property like :vc-backend. We could also use the opportunity to extend the "elpa-packages.eld" format (not necessarily "elpa-packages" itself) to have some metadata like a format-version or default backend.