From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 00:19:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87leoeqyze.fsf@thaodan.de> References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87pmdxgptl.fsf@posteo.net> <87iljotycc.fsf@thaodan.de> <87k044fvx9.fsf@posteo.net> <87a650twv7.fsf@thaodan.de> <87wn84ednr.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1sks82p.fsf@thaodan.de> <87mt909g3o.fsf@posteo.net> <87leojswzm.fsf@thaodan.de> <875yfluy99.fsf@thaodan.de> <875yfk1uqm.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1sg5ntn.fsf@thaodan.de> <87cz9sz3ym.fsf@posteo.net> <87pmdqudn9.fsf@thaodan.de> <87r0y6voji.fsf@posteo.net> <878rkespp0.fsf@thaodan.de> <87iljiu3q3.fsf@posteo.net> <87r0y6r4hb.fsf@thaodan.de> <871qq6tw0w.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31681"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Richard Stallman , stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 23:19:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ouLKK-00082N-QL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:19:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouLK6-0006ej-72; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:19:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouLK4-0006cy-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from thaodan.de ([185.216.177.71]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouLK2-000226-8a; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:19:27 -0500 Original-Received: from odin (dsl-trebng12-b04885-76.dhcp.inet.fi [176.72.133.76]) by thaodan.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 604D5D08A97; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 00:19:18 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=thaodan.de; s=mail; t=1668377958; bh=12EFZtLx0d56w5QGnUKZXr0ftLEWICLkKBYL0PJ35Qo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=2Js2ddFLN8iu884pn+S5C41ne00paZbQJj1+tCUXBL61UvN2H3LOTpbxWPvNJ4ZYI 8Y1ag3pn0g6EPkcSyHtPQPqqF+oYOLZFKjAje4EPK+n39WEnnPjvNxJg+rb9wK0PzN KuUKgcpDKff/dq9v8SYA7tPs5PnQ0GT1pDO6Ng6vzxbjfW7u7VTBvJ2CQ+VHomPR5R bS/u/ZfEg0wk+u5vTOwqSkAbLePL6MSBqnH53mRpgGaHq/TlJYK2uPsPzMpDekolR6 EvrGGa6jQ07T+OCgBlJ6HcA/3wvoMzPeYAxd48vexFo8rv7jVIENTMpRrI1VNlcPVP a0Lk4SNYk8xq8pqnJBCdwaQRRtoz2CAHYVT84mF+q3kc9QuD/dayJ4yKukR0D46Arb pbqWRmlD/t+7Ll5+uIO7seulAz1dMErn3mEQ7TTEmFsnLbHjAsDCl7ZHNZ/GE6BiTu ARJfYcTYaQwTztdO/d+qtkNqfouf5dbTvfjmzWT9Xg7w9qNXmQQkBErpXmTovh73oN uxH122UaaAoM4uLR7w8Ix+CWH9YV9oxw5C/krUC66HMUIsxadPMT+yg1JdR34kY5Ad OTz7yHMSmF/4xR6Zjz74he35ck/ZWOL/GZ7pr6skO/FHpx0elSj/bP9Ueuaz4Ty3fW uzjI9QjgPAkui/3afoTe7TsY= In-Reply-To: <871qq6tw0w.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:54:55 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.216.177.71; envelope-from=bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de; helo=thaodan.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299759 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> I believe that Stefan explained this, in distinguishing between >>> software >>> that you have to run on your own system and a fixed service that >>> runs on >>> non-free software. A web browser is not at fault when requesting a >>> website from a non-free web server. >> >> What if the software only implements non-free standards such as Exchange? > > The term "non-free" doesn't apply to standards. How do you read the > source and share modifications of a protocol specification? Maybe I should have phrased it differently but the mapi protocol to connect to Exchange is only implemented in Microsoft Exchange. Unless there's a foss software that basically reimplements Microsoft Exchange having a package that implements such standards in Elpa is like ha= ving a package that happens to be able to talk to the api of services such as spotify.=20=20 But even for protocols or file type standards there is documentation that is needed to implement such. Br, Bj=C3=B6rn