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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8b7e5129e759f1a3ce8fb74472c7ea5b; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:55:55 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:53:34 -0400") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21647 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307837 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Do you really have nothing more concrete than "unbearable"? How about, for starters, that creating a frame in Emacs results in it being displayed within the X server, and not as a separate window managed by Android? And that Termux, currently supporting only Android 8.0 and later, is incapable of running on the latest release of any FSF approved Android distribution? There are also countless other features not offered by running Emacs within an X server on Android: IMEs, support for the Android virtual filesystem, opening attachments from other programs, touch screen support, et cetera.