From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Merging MPS a.k.a. scratch/igc, yet again
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:10:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldwnn0ny.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87zfl4npcd.fsf@debian-hx90.lan
Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> writes:
> If making MPS available in Debian would help Emacs packaging I'm willing
> to work on this (in the coming weeks as igc may not land with the
> upcoming Emacs 30 release so not in a hurry.)
As a Debian user, I value every package that is made available through
its repos, thank you.
However, in the specific case of Emacs/MPS, IMAO distro packaging is not
the best way, because:
* Depending on packaged MPS brings versioning problems, not to mention
that it would take a long time to have MPS available on a large part
of the distro ecosystem. We would need the DIY part of README-IGC
anyway.
* It is very likely that we end doing some patching to the MPS sources
to adapt to our specific needs (if those patches end upstream or not,
that's another question.)
* MPS does a performance-critical job. Using it as a shared object might
incur in a performance penalty. Having it in source form alongside the
Emacs sources will result in opportunities for optimizations (LTO,
PGO, ...) that may bring better performance.
* MPS does a correctness-critical job. Depending on multiple external
sources for such core component is a recipe for problems (future
changes by the MPS maintainers, patching by packagers, buggy
compilers, etc.) We need to keep a close watch on what MPS incarnation
we use. Better yet, total control.
For those reasons, incorporating MPS into the Emacs sources is the right
thing to do.
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