From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Egli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mgp.el Date: 03 Jul 2002 22:45:43 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87k7ocy1zc.fsf@wyona.com> References: <200205150701.g4F71YZ16258@aztec.santafe.edu> <87fzz0zkf0.fsf@wyona.com> <200207032001.g63K1Rj25269@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025729451 22329 127.0.0.1 (3 Jul 2002 20:50:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kakugawa@aial.hiroshima-u.ac.jp Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pr5P-0005o2-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 22:50:51 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17PrB4-0003Tx-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 22:56:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pr5h-0005Sb-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from h213-122.wyona.ch ([194.191.122.213] helo=lithium.wyona.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pr5A-0005Qn-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:50:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.191.122.219] (helo=nitrogen) by lithium.wyona.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pr4z-0007ey-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 22:50:25 +0200 Original-Received: from egli by nitrogen with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pr0R-000457-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 22:45:43 +0200 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200207032001.g63K1Rj25269@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 65 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5413 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5413 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > 2. Rename our version before putting it into Emacs. This might require > > a rerun of the paper signing process. Possible names are > > magicpoint.el or magicpoint-mode.el (mgp.el and mgp-mode.el are > > taken as they are shipped in the contrib directory of the > > magicpoint sources). > > There's no need to re-sign any paper. As for the name, I'd > lean towards mgp-mode.el but only if you are confident that the > missing features from the existing mgp-mode.el will be added > soon As far as I can tell the only two missing features that are only in the existing mgp-mode.el are: 1. C-u C-c C-c calculates the current page and passes it to magicpoint so that the presentation starts with the current page. This shouldn't be very hard to add. If I take code from the original we need papers from the original author Hirotsugu Kakugawa. 2. The existing mgp-mode.el has some key-bindings that let you insert directives directly e.g. C-c C-p inserts "%page". IMHO this can be done easier with tempo if there is a demand for this feature. > and you are confident that this old mgp-mode.el will not be > developed further. I was in contact with the original developer. It sounded like he was using Emacs 20.7 and his original version quite happily without doing any development on it. > Have you gotten in touch with the author/maintainer of the old > mgp-mode.el ? What does (s)he think ? I had asked him if I could reuse parts of his code and he encouraged me to to do so. At least that's how I read his mail :-) For the record here's the mail that I got from the maintainer: Hirotsugu Kakugawa writes: > Dear Christian, > > Thank you for your message. > I'm using mgp-mode.el with Emacs 20.7, > but I have not tested it with Emacs 21. It may be outdated. > My mgp-model.el is distributed under the terms of GPL. > So you can freely modify it without permission. > I am looking forward to improved mgp-mode.el! > > > Cheers, > > Hirotsugu Kakugawa -- Christian Egli wyona: research & development http://www.wyona.com