From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcelo Toledo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:02:18 -0300 Message-ID: <87k6no631h.fsf@kali.intranet> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112235972 13503 80.91.229.2 (31 Mar 2005 02:26:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 31 04:26:09 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGpNC-00025Y-NY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:25:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGpdn-00027j-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGpdH-0001vo-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:42:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGpdE-0001uc-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:42:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGpdE-0001tS-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [200.213.197.161] (helo=hm61.locaweb.com.br) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DGpEk-0004Dj-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:16:46 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 16391 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 02:16:06 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (10.1.10.10) by hm61.locaweb.com.br with QMTP; 31 Mar 2005 02:16:06 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16348 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 02:16:43 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kali.intranet.marcelotoledo.org) (marcelo@marcelotoledo.org@201.9.94.151) by hm10.locaweb.com.br with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 02:16:43 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUREBKVenaCZF94VlBp TEhXPzzH0uJJMS+5w9gzIiKEqtMzAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEgAACxIB0t1+/AAA AAd0SU1FB9MGCwAYJycum7IAAAH+SURBVHjavVO5bttAECUCGMGWOwICtTtL5Si1s4ThLuBRuEwk gfEPCCptwQHBUh3LRWiC2L/NLGNHqyNtCJDFPL735kyS//mIf8Z94q4BToirJDe9FxThJoYX4oqD F975Sxc/Nq33/vx/kQzr0lZVfUHxa4Na26o+A8TPghCRys0ZZdgYRECylTsDVoRKgaasPVUaC6OU VKz14E5KGRiQUuq6aWMtEQCOQ72mVsQmbqjKfC6BU749YYhmbNashWmZPbqvEcPniBynuirbIYu0 RtRkkLCydP8rjxgvtMk1EaDRVa8jk5esYiDj8jF7AhcBlsDmtpiAiPE4EBoys5xrsc/pEfjSk0a9 BOIqF/3iCNCzQTlTklOWdv/pCHyz3CoA0AykT3dHYH/LrQKjtJGg48a/mwCUQAhpEwE3C84HlZyR AV3Hg6KcDTgnWPJM4r7vC+Bcu0MA1jEgeim57aEQvToZ+w0bsAmPXRdtPPX3y8ldKm3pgSf3F3N5 KFsB75a5c7wF7u04egW8QBwnzHjx3ygiGZUKnUJjIPXJtKhMY64g/AMg6Kr+cYBXCydW3GCWCp8y nXeHcHguHN8+rDuGzCDV3bybnINaH1QgLCqg6rouxFkocaPiQwhxNvq8YyAkxqfpfNh3fuZM+bjb 7kJmju/Yie+v/x+k/LDddr8BShKMrI4evB8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35397 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35397 Miles Bader writes: > So what exactly is that patch supposed to do? It seems very complicated. > > I'm not sure it's a good idea to take the description `first sentence > in the tutorial' literally; a sentence may not be the best unit to > use, as something that sounds natural when inserted into the splash > page may look odd as a standalone first sentence in the tutorial. > > It seem better to do as I suggested earlier, and structure it more as > a `title' in the actual tutorial file (that is, simply the words > "Emacs Tutorial" or equivalent, on a line by themselves, possibly > centered on the first line, followed by a blank line). That will be > easier to extract from the file, and probably will look reasonable in > both contexts. That's what it does. Right now it's not centered and there is no blank line after it. But I think it will look better if we make it, will look like a title in the tutorial and will work in the splash screen. I think Thien can take care of this change modifing the code to grab the phrase in the _center_ (may vary from file to file) of the first line. I am checking with the translators if those already commited are well written. I will commit this change in the admin/FOR-RELEASE if no one mind: *** FOR-RELEASE.old Wed Mar 30 21:20:14 2005 --- FOR-RELEASE Wed Mar 30 21:45:28 2005 *************** *** 245,250 **** --- 245,282 ---- lispref/variables.texi "Luc Teirlinck" Chong Yidong lispref/windows.texi "Luc Teirlinck" Chong Yidong + ** Check the Emacs Tutorial. + + The first line of every tutorial must be "Emacs Tutorial" in the + repective language. It is used as a title in the tutorial and also used + in the splash screen. After each file name, on the same line or the + following line, come the names of the people who have checked it. + + SECTION READERS + ---------------------------------- + etc/TUTORIAL Marcelo Toledo + etc/TUTORIAL.bg + etc/TUTORIAL.cn + etc/TUTORIAL.cs + etc/TUTORIAL.de + etc/TUTORIAL.es Marcelo Toledo + etc/TUTORIAL.fr Jaco + etc/TUTORIAL.it Alfredo Finelli + etc/TUTORIAL.ja + etc/TUTORIAL.ko + etc/TUTORIAL.nl + etc/TUTORIAL.pl + etc/TUTORIAL.pt_BR Marcelo Toledo + etc/TUTORIAL.ro + etc/TUTORIAL.ru + etc/TUTORIAL.sk + etc/TUTORIAL.sl + etc/TUTORIAL.sv + etc/TUTORIAL.th + etc/TUTORIAL.zh + + + Local variables: mode: outline -- Marcelo Toledo marcelo@marcelotoledo.org http://www.marcelotoledo.org Mobile: 55 71 9116-1101