From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: mouse-1-click-follows-link doesn'tgovern behavior in Customize]
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:05:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k629lqgg.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1GgFB6-0003yO-Su@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 04 Nov 2006 01\:38\:52 -0500")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> OTOH, it is not straightforward to implement the
> mouse-1-click-follows-link behavior for widgets, including link
> widgets: in particular, the part where holding the button down for a
> certain time causes point to move.
>
> C-h v read-quoted-char-radix RET generates a buffer with a link.
> It obeys mouse-1-click-follows-link.
>
> M-x customize-option RET read-quoted-char-radix RET creates a buffer
> with a widget that looks just the same. But it doesn't act the same.
> This is very bad UI design.
>
> Could we change cus-edit.el to make a link instead of a widget?
> But changing widget-documentation-link-add, say?
At the Lisp level, the custom-group-link widgets behave rather
differently from ordinary links used in, e.g., the *Help* buffer.
There's a lot amount of code in cus-edit.el that specifies an :action
for the custom-group-link widget when the widget is defined. The
minimum required change is to (i) make these callers specify some
other widget property, say :link-action; (ii) somehow modify the
custom-group-link so that it is inserted along with text properties
that specify a mouse-2 local binding plus a `follow-link' property,
which automagically calls the :link-action of the widget. It's a
pretty big project.
Recall that the link widgets were changed to look like links during
the Emacs 22 release process; previously they looked like buttons.
The change was made because they are conceptually links rather than
buttons, and people don't expect links to look like buttons.
I think the amount of inconsistency involved is negligible enough that
we can postphone it for after the release.
One compromise is to change the :pressed-face widget property of
custom-group-link widgets. That way, they will change color when the
user holds down the mouse button, which is a visual cue that they
behave differently from other Emacs links.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-05 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-30 13:33 [drew.adams@oracle.com: mouse-1-click-follows-link doesn't govern behavior in Customize] Richard Stallman
2006-10-30 14:25 ` Chong Yidong
2006-10-30 15:16 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: mouse-1-click-follows-link doesn'tgovern " Drew Adams
2006-10-30 19:53 ` Chong Yidong
2006-11-04 6:38 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05 18:05 ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2006-11-06 5:02 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-06 14:42 ` Chong Yidong
2006-11-06 21:00 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-06 22:06 ` Chong Yidong
2006-11-08 4:17 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-30 17:15 ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: mouse-1-click-follows-link doesn't govern " Jason Rumney
2006-10-30 17:48 ` Drew Adams
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