From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:27:46 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87k5qezey5.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87d4waxnw7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ejgq3pp6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85vea1rfly.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85fy15o1cs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <854phjiunz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190752787 26139 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2007 20:39:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 22:39:42 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IaHBy-00070z-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:39:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaHBv-0001O7-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaHA2-0007de-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaHA1-0007bf-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaHA0-0007bT-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaH9r-00070a-VV; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaH9p-0008OQ-GF; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:37:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue\, 25 Sep 2007 13\:57\:53 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 233cb89e4cdd9c68f6fe52a505261b56 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1517 [September 25 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 25 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79852 Archived-At: > ! " For this window of the frame: > ! mouse-1: select (drag to resize), mouse-2: maximize, mouse-3: vanish") > > "delete" would be better than "vanish". > > Aside from that, do people like it? Multi-line tooltips don't work with (tooltip-mode -1) or if `tooltip-use-echo-area' is non-nil, because only the first line of the tooltip is displayed in the echo area: " For this window of the frame:" and nothing more. And resizing the echo area is not an option too because when the echo area gets resized, the mode line of the lower window moves away from the mouse pointer upward immediately after placing the mouse pointer on it. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/