From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: choice for the new emacs icon Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87k5ljlt7m.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <200802050135.m151ZGDH005052@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcgof9as.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200802050618.m156IHMi005521@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802050643.m156h3Uq015539@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202199034 28630 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2008 08:10:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:10:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 05 09:10:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JMItG-0002A5-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:10:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMIsm-0005IP-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMIsg-0005I1-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMIsf-0005Hc-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMIsf-0005HZ-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMIse-0007Sr-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:12 -0500 Original-Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMIsc-0004UD-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F2A8F766 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:10:09 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:10:09 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: lwGdfqikPgsTYXgabC8h5lwSBoB1KVPft+eKwv5TcOEH 1202199008 Original-Received: from baldur (dslb-084-063-055-207.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.55.207]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10AC2AE9B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:10:07 -0500 (EST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:01:30 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88249 Archived-At: --=-=-= Miles Bader writes: Hi Miles, >> > These new icons look very "OSX"...] >> >> Which would be a positive thing, isn't it? > > Um. > > Icons on OSX are often very pretty and glossy looking, but they don't > necessarily mesh well with what's on other systems... > > [e.g., the trend on OSX seems to be towards hyper-realistic icons, > whereas on other systems, icons tend to be more abstract.] The new icons match KDE4's Qxygen theme quite good. It seems they adopted the convention that editors use a pen in their icon. For example the attached png is the new icon for KDE's text editor kate. 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Hard to say. Version one looks a bit cleaner, I'd say, but if you are no insider you wouldn't recognize the horns. So in that respect version 2 is better, but the fact that both the pen and the E lean into the same direction but with slightly different angles disrupts my sense of symmetry. Maybe that could be fixed with moving and inclining the pen a bit. Bye, Tassilo --=-=-=--