From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE features: M-x find-grep Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 02:17:38 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87k5i96ajx.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200804272236.28969.davi@leals.com> <87skx7gea3.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87k5icp98o.fsf@jurta.org> <481BB15A.9080204@gmail.com> <878wyrat3s.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209943099 434 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2008 23:18:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: davi@leals.com, storm@cua.dk, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 05 01:18:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JsnTq-00044L-I3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 01:18:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53033 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JsnT8-00085I-HG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 19:18:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JsnT3-000822-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 19:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JsnT2-00081q-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 19:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53776 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JsnT1-00081n-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 19:18:03 -0400 Original-Received: from anti-4.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.202]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JsnSx-0007be-PZ; Sun, 04 May 2008 19:18:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by anti-4.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JsnSu-000CXb-EG; Mon, 05 May 2008 02:17:56 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 04 May 2008 16:07:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 1678f860418e8694a064f05d5e21ded6 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2772 [May 04 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96459 Archived-At: > The menu is not necessarily flat. Using submenus it would be possible > to organize most useful commands in a convenient way. For instance, > the "Search" menu could have submenus "Search files" for the grep family > of commands, and "Search buffers" for the occur family of commands. > > More levels of menu is also inconvenient. The general point is > still valid: we should have to design the best menu, not stuff > in all the commands that we think "beginners should see". I think long menus are more inconvenient than deep menus. Currently we have overly long menu Tools (28 items!), so moving search related commands to Edit->Search will make the Tools menu shorter. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/