From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: mah@everybody.org (Mark A. Hershberger) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; [nxml] BOM and utf-8 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:33:40 -0400 Message-ID: <87k5hnxguj.fsf@everybody.org> References: <87od75kt78.fsf@pdrechsler.de> <87d4nk8y3q.fsf@everybody.org> <87r6bvs3jj.fsf@pdrechsler.de> <87mymjs2qw.fsf@pdrechsler.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211420637 22683 80.91.229.12 (22 May 2008 01:43:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 01:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 22 03:44:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jyzr4-0008P9-C8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 03:44:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40798 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JyzqK-0005Id-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 May 2008 21:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JyzqF-0005IS-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2008 21:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JyzqD-0005I1-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2008 21:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58260 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JyzqD-0005Hw-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2008 21:43:37 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:41501 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JyzqD-0000UO-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2008 21:43:37 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JyzqA-00008a-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 May 2008 01:43:34 +0000 Original-Received: from rrcs-70-62-101-2.midsouth.biz.rr.com ([70.62.101.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 01:43:34 +0000 Original-Received: from mah by rrcs-70-62-101-2.midsouth.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 01:43:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Followup-To: gmane.emacs.devel Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-70-62-101-2.midsouth.biz.rr.com X-URL: http://mah.everybody.org/weblog/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sMmM+IcalSxNSkoWqhXfZMgkk5Y= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97490 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22405 Archived-At: Patrick Drechsler writes: > Patrick Drechsler writes: >> Finally having some spare time I read the specs from above and I have a >> followup question concerning your last sentence: >> >> The BOM in my example file is not whitespace, it is xEF xBB xBF (it is >> only displayed as whitespace by Emacs). According to the W3C site this >> is valid: You're right. I skimmed too fast and missed that important bit. However, you'll note that the spec still does not leave room for a BOM. I don't know enough about UTF-8 encoding and XML to know if this matters. Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ GPG Fingerprint: 7E15 362D A32C DFAB E4D2 B37A 735E F10A 2DFC BFF5 Ideas create idols; only wonder leads to knowing. -- St. Gregory of Nyssa