From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bob@rattlesnake.com (Robert J. Chassell) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:19:37 +0000 Message-ID: <87k5e5dsvq.fsf@rattlesnake.com> References: <48A5BAD7.8030302@emf.net> <48A740CB.4050404@emf.net> <20080816213508.GA8530@muc.de> <87hc9ka8eg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080817073124.GA1294@muc.de> <87ljyv5gy5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080818101802.GA2615@muc.de> <87bpzqqk7b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080818210927.GD2615@muc.de> <87wsidnxqp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ljytkwpk.fsf@rattlesnake.com> <878wusz0v9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87vdxp27z6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87prnxe5hc.fsf@rattlesnake.com> <873aktck5d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219677644 3442 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2008 15:20:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:20:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 25 17:21:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KXdsP-0007z0-9t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:21:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44686 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXdrR-0008P6-4F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXdr4-0008Gs-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:19:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KXdr2-0008GF-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:19:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34638 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXdr2-0008GA-Rb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-130-115.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.130.115]:52950 helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KXdr2-0000PC-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:19:37 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: <873aktck5d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102945 Archived-At: Robert J. Chassell writes: > I am saying that the current laws, international treaties, and > experience send us to the GNU Public License, version 3. You may not > like the current laws and international treaties; I don't; technology > makes it easier to copy than before. Unfortunately, the current laws > and international treaties exist and their backers are powerful. "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: And this is related to communitarian freedom ... how? Laws and international treaties have to do with other people. They are not individualistic in that sense. When you make a decision involving others, the consequences don't involve you alone. A community has other people in it. You may prefer your community to be more individualistic -- I do with my own -- but regardless, a community as other people in it. It is a matter of degree. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc