From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Hagelberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:43:56 -0800 Message-ID: <87k4vp667n.fsf@hagelb.org> References: <87k4w5lbyb.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87zl50jv52.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d41rn3wt.fsf_-_@hagelb.org> <87k4vxiwlj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wcdjg9r.fsf@hagelb.org> <87637gh73j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87637b96pc.fsf@hagelb.org> <87wrzr6ugo.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263156265 32331 80.91.229.12 (10 Jan 2010 20:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, elpa@tromey.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Chong Yidong To: joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 21:44:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NU4dy-0002S0-Q0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:44:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41209 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU4dz-0004ZI-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU4du-0004ZD-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:44:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU4do-0004Z1-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:44:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38960 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU4do-0004Yy-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:44:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5]:49291 helo=homiemail-a19.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NU4dm-00066q-M8; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:44:02 -0500 Original-Received: from enigma (71-23-19-98.war.clearwire-wmx.net [71.23.19.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a19.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B935E60405D; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:43:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (joakim@verona.se's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:00:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119794 Archived-At: joakim@verona.se writes: >> No, it's a valid concern. It's hard work hunting down papers and >> integrating packages. We must make sure a package system does not tempt >> us to just "dump and forget". > > A well made package system might also conceivably make it easier to > acquire papers right? > > For instance, it might be more prestigious to have ones package in the > FSF repos. In my mind it has little to do with prestige and more to do with streamlining the installation process for users of my projects. Being able to tell users "install $FOO through package.el" rather than giving a many-step install process means it will be easier for users to discover and try out my projects, not to mention keeping them up to date with the latest version. For this benefit I (and surely many other package authors) would be willing to put up with the hassle of paperwork where possible, thereby increasing the number of packages for which the FSF owns copyright. -Phil