From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:51:27 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87k4mfv8jk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> <87r5gp5hqv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285055725 9297 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 07:55:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:55:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 09:55:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxxhE-0003tk-9r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:55:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42473 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxxhD-0003PY-FS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:55:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48415 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oxxh4-0003O0-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxxgz-0006Ds-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:55:14 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxxgz-0006Dj-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxxgv-0003o1-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:55:05 +0200 Original-Received: from p508ed5a1.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.213.161]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:55:05 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508ed5a1.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:55:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508ed5a1.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9SWTWwYLCrLnLHMHY0ih23Ve7kE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130563 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: >>    > It won't bother anyone for `delete' to delete the region.  Making >>    > `backspace' do so is the change that will bother lots of users. >> >>    But it's also the only such change that really matters for >>    newbie-friendless. >> >> I am not convinced it does.  The case in which newbies would expect >> Backspace to delete the region is after mouse-selecting it, >> and it already does delete the region in that case. > > > I think a newbie expect the visible region to be delete by backspace > always (at least I think that is the case on w32). Why don't you think > that? Is there _any_ way to create an active region under w32 that does not already do delete-by-backspace in Emacs? -- David Kastrup