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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147382 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 02:24, Óscar Fuentes wrote: > >> Please note that notifying the user about security vulnerabilities and >> critical fixes has nothing to do with the source/binary discussion. > > No, but the source/binary discussion is being swept under the carpet > as if there were nothing to discuss and it was *evident* that we > should distribute the binaries. Perhaps you have noticed that I > disagree with that idea. I have no objections to your disagreement towards this and your POV wrt the Emacs project distributing binaries. Furthermore, if that's the sentiment on the rest of the w32 emacs people and the project leaders, I'll urge you to stop distributing MS Windows binaries. I'm pretty sure that there will be no shortage of Emacs binaries for MS Windows. >> Even >> on a source-only world, it is a nice (maybe the correct word nowadays >> would be "required") service to users to proactively inform them. > > Yes. And I bet that in most source-only projects, like Emacs, the > usual way is to put a notice in the project web page, publish an > announcement in the relevant mailing lists and newsgroups, or send > people an e-mail if they are subscribed to e-mail notifications. That's not proactive. I don't periodically visit the project the web page of all sensitive software I use searching for critical updates, nor subscribe to mailing lists, e-mail notifications (is there one for Emacs?) nor read newsgroups. That's totally unrealistic as it would take lots of time. Really, I can't see how you object to automatic checks for critical updates. Even less can I understand how you object to that feature in principle, not just as personal preference. [snip]