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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	13141@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13141: please review bug #13141
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:03:32 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3r7mjob.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1TwzpU-0007Of-Pd@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:41:16 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>
>     I've had at least half a dozen cases
>     where users deleted automatically added information which I then
>     requested -- to no avail, since the reporters never responded.

If there's no information at all, maybe the users didn't go through the
Emacs bug reporting interface, writing the report directly in the email client.

> To go out of their way to delete it makes me wonder why.  Maybe it was
> a valid reason.  Could it be that there was something private in that
> information which they specifically did not want to send?

I usually delete most of it, because the default text looks messy, and I
don't like sending emails that look untidy. Also, it's harder to find
the actual report description if it's surrounded by auto-generated text.

It's better now that some parts of it are just shown through the display
property, but the user might not know/understand that.

> Because of this consideration it would not be right to hide
> that information.  We should not try to trick our users into sending
> us something they did not want to send.

As it is, the exact information the user's sending is not immediately
obvious, they'd have to carefully scroll though a fairly large chunk of
text to know that.

IMO, it would be better to ask about each potentially-sensitive section
(last keystrokes, obviously; local paths, recent messages? maybe), and
then include them as attachment or several.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-19 23:10 please review bug #13141 Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-19 23:59   ` Drew Adams
2013-01-20  0:12     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  7:16     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 10:33       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 17:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-20 18:41       ` bug#13141: " Richard Stallman
2013-01-20 21:21         ` Drew Adams
2013-01-21  1:03         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2013-01-21  3:02           ` bug#13141: " Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-21  3:26           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-21  2:39         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 10:50     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-20 12:02       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 20:27         ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-21  2:52           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2013-01-21  4:24         ` Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:21 ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <DA0FC7AC1D94402A949DC683C8E88CF0@us.oracle.com>
     [not found] ` <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135__10998.9037890502$1358637091$gmane$org@us.oracle.com>
2013-01-20  0:35   ` bug#13141: " Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-20  0:54     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  7:19       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 19:46         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2013-01-20  1:03     ` Drew Adams

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