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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, kzhr@d1.dion.ne.jp, michael.albinus@gmx.de,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multibyte and unibyte file names
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:57:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3qz3jyx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Tz8Fr-0005je-GN@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:

 > Removing unibyte mode could probably be a big slowdown for visiting
 > binary files,

This was benchmarked for XEmacs in the early 2000s, and for files big
enough to matter the decoding time is swamped by disk I/O.  If it's
possible to mmap files into buffers, the difference to visiting might
be perceptible, but even SSDs can't transfer fast enough to beat CPUs
at decoding if you actually fill the buffer.

The biggest difference would be in `goto-char', which becomes
O(distance from the nearest point in the position cache).  It would be
possible to initialize the cache at read time, and a cache 1% of the
size of the file would allow you to cache a position every 2KB or so,
for effectively O(1) performance.[1]  We never implemented that, though;
the most important uses for large files were log files, and all of the
people who were using Emacsen to read log files had pure ASCII files
which did allow random access.

 > and might make it unreliable.

Depends on how you implement it.  XEmacs's implementation has never
had a bug that I've heard of.


Footnotes: 
[1]  Since you know the cache is "nearly uniform", you can do better
than O(log(0.0005*size)).




  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-26 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-23 17:45 Multibyte and unibyte file names Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-23 18:08 ` Paul Eggert
2013-01-23 19:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-23 23:38     ` Paul Eggert
2013-01-23 19:42 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-23 20:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-23 20:58     ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-24 16:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-23 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-24 17:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-24 18:25     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-24 18:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-25  0:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-25  7:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-25 11:36             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-25 20:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-25 22:28                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-26 10:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 11:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-26 13:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 22:11                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-27  7:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-27  8:46                             ` Andreas Schwab
2013-01-27  9:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-28  1:55                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-28 14:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-28 15:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-02 17:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 13:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26  3:04                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26 11:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 13:03                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26 13:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 16:26                         ` Paul Eggert
2013-01-26 18:30                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26 17:10                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26 17:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 18:06                             ` Paul Eggert
2013-01-26 18:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 18:56                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-26 21:40                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-26 21:44                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-27  6:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-26 16:05                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-26 17:57                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2013-01-26 22:16                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-24 10:00 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-24 16:40   ` Eli Zaretskii

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