From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sweeter Emacs Lisp Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:10 +0200 Organization: Emacs Helm Message-ID: <87k3kqejw5.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8738rh6ftk.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqor45he.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373979873 24539 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2013 13:04:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:04:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 16 15:04:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4vf-00064h-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47874 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4ve-0006hY-Ro for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:04:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39675) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4vb-0006hP-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:04:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4va-0000i6-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46451) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4va-0000hp-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz4vW-0005yr-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:22 +0200 Original-Received: from 37.160.27.210 ([37.160.27.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:22 +0200 Original-Received: from thierry.volpiatto by 37.160.27.210 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 37.160.27.210 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:izcYFcvdlofpquUz3ZwnXCDh/VY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161926 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: > Juanma Barranquero writes: > >> The past two weeks, while hacking desktop.el, often I would've loved >> to require 'cl-lib to use sequence functions. I didn't, because >> desktop.el, though not pre-loaded, it is so commonly used that loading >> cl-lib from it would be almost like forcing cl-lib into everybody's >> Emacs. > > There is nothing wrong with using the macros from cl-lib. There is nothing wrong using the functions from cl-lib too AFAIK. (Like everybody does) >> OTOH, cl-lib is currently unconditionally required by 15 files (plus >> emacs-lisp/cl*.el): > > Only when compiling. No 19 files are requiring cl-lib at runtime actually. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997