From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. 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[81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fj8sm7785318wib.1.2014.01.04.05.27.53 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:27:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDF851C2063E; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 14:27:51 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87mwjbzy4v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2014 14:15:28 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167287 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Bastien writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> I'm quite convinced that nobody will miss ChangeLog files when working >>> with Git. >> >> Users? > > What about "when working with Git" did you not understand? I'm not a native english speaker, I may have misunderstood. I've read the sentence above as "I'm quite convinced that nobody will miss ChangeLog files whenever we will be working with Git" -- which I disagree with. >> Especially those who use Emacs from a preinstalled version, not from a >> Git clone. > > So? You can generate a ChangeLog file from Git, and we likely would do > so. But frankly: it is quite unlikely for users to look at a ChangeLog > file. I did so when I was just a user. But sure, that's probably a minority. > What's interesting for users is NEWS. For anything beyond that, > you'll likely just clone the git repository as it is > > a) cheap to do (we are not talking about Bazaar here) > b) so much more convenient to search. I don't see anything to gain in preventing mere users from reading ChangeLog files, and I see nothing to lose in editing Changelogs that you copy into commit messages. It does not even take more time thanks to C-x v v inserting Changelogs in commit messages directly. -- Bastien