From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87k31kga2y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87h9wqimf0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q1fekv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419184663 2742 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 17:57:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , Emacs-Devel devel , Stephen Turnbull , Drew Adams To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 18:57:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kl6-0002AL-La for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:57:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kl6-0002u0-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kko-0002s2-JI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kkn-0004TH-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kkn-0004TD-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:57:17 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42345 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2kkf-0002A7-Jx; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1171DE0C52; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:57:09 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:43:28 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180435 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >>> >>> It's a very long page, with text and images interspersed all the >>> time. The downloading and rendering for the images takes a while, >>> changing the browser's idea of the sizes all the time (maybe Texinfo >>> should declare the geometry of images in the HTML if it doesn't >>> already). > > Of course the size of the images should be declared in the HTML. Not > doing that create a whole lot of extra work for the web browser since > it otherwise has to recalculate the geometry all the time when a new > image gets loaded. Well, the HTML looks like

‘accidental-ancient.ly’

[image of music]

so indeed the geometry appears to be absent. Probably worth an enhancement request on the Texinfo mailing list. It would probably slow down the HTML generation, though. -- David Kastrup