From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Require Emacs >=24.3 for next Org versions? Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:45:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87k2svjqii.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87mvxtdjkn.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp2nkasy.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439732760 7950 80.91.229.3 (16 Aug 2015 13:46:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stromeko@nexgo.de, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 16 15:45:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyG7-0001Lw-40 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:45:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyG6-0006Xr-B4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:45:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48009) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyG1-0006Wb-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyFz-0002Jf-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:45:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyFw-0002GH-RJ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46732 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQyFp-0002CX-OB; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D78DDF43D; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:45:41 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:14:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188819 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Emacs 23 didn't come with package.el, which means you're targetting > > people who have manually added package.el to their system. > > Emacs packages such as Org mode existed and were distributed > separately since long before ELPA. But we are not talking about obliterating older downloadable copies of Org mode from all servers. I don't see a problem with the current Org update. Of course, as the package manager stops being a novelty, upstream package management will become an issue. Ideally, the package versions offered by a package manager will work with the version of Emacs running the package manager. Either we have one repository per Emacs version, or smarter version management for one repository serving more than one Emacsen. -- David Kastrup