From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:02:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87k2qvhwik.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp0ngksh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83zizrrqs2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444471352 11961 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2015 10:02:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 12:02:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyr-0001Wu-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:02:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44271 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyq-0007Yy-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyl-0007Ui-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyi-0006FH-P6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:55126) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyi-0006FB-Jg; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:02:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=seNrfMeseGIeismuHrS/p5TRSCllFF+Nc+eo9vCUVQQ=; b=hao8z5lWuhTlG0SMOu0vryPVvNsbH2aFPitnksxbeVbA0P2A1+VEgM5lSI+mZoJ8tflD39XNHGN5iewFH9awww3xEJY8S7x2/0vkwI3cfoOZUaXug1i5bSmjgmZl/a6X; Original-Received: from ip4d1645ea.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.22.69.234] helo=isaac.fritz.box) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkqyi-0005QV-1g; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:02:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83zizrrqs2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:55:57 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191107 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I agree that you need to have some serious will power, perseverance, > and sometimes just stubbornness to get stuff like that done. Yes, like that guy who ported gccxml from version to version for *years*. It's now called CastXML. > people are unhappy about such a blunt representation of the facts, > then that's fine by me: I actually want people to become unhappy, > because that just might cause someone to stop complaining and start > working. Oh, I do. -David