From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:23:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87k2qtctup.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <56194171.1080006@siege-engine.com> <5619E7C7.5000401@yandex.ru> <83egh1qw8a.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444577002 10628 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 15:23:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eric@siege-engine.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 17:23:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlIT1-0002iT-UZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:23:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlIT1-0004nB-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35263) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlISx-0004m5-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlISw-00044C-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlISv-00043E-B7; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60429 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlISu-0004OZ-9h; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:23:12 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 669F6E13B5; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:23:10 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83egh1qw8a.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:08:05 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191238 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 07:38:31 +0300 >> >> On 10/10/2015 07:48 PM, Eric Ludlam wrote: >> >> > I had always intended CEDET to be a baseline for IDE like features. >> > Looking just at tagging files, those familiar with it's internals >> > recognize that it can use external tools as weak as ctags or GLOBAL, and >> > can use a more powerful external tool for parsing as well, such as using >> > JAVAC for decompiling .jar files into tags. >> >> It sounds good if all I have is a parser/tagger. >> >> But if I already have an external tool that can give me a set of >> completions at a given position in a given buffer, and also provides a >> go-to-definition feature, what's the advantage of going through >> Semantic? > > One advantage that comes to mind is that you don't depend on an > external tool whose development is beyond our control. Well, we'd certainly like to depend on GCC. -- David Kastrup