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[94.62.139.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r21sm2444279wmd.26.2017.10.14.02.04.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Oct 2017 02:04:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:19:01 -0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219494 Archived-At: Radon Rosborough writes: >> A follow up: if I do use packages but never mess with its "advanced >> options" (or even customize by that matter), will I also never have >> this second file? > > Correct. If you don't have to customize `package-user-dir' or > `package-load-list', and you don't need to stop package.el from > loading packages that you already installed, then there is no need for > the early init file. > > Note also that with this patch, unlike in the current situation, Emacs > doesn't do anything automatically. No files are created or modified by > Emacs. Thank you. Sounds reasonable, then. Jo=C3=A3o