From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Goaziou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:24:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87k1ufsxb7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <878tb5axms.fsf@bzg.fr> <87371762r3.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87zi3dcrq1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83po49s36j.fsf@gnu.org> <876061ckk7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83h8plrygn.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvtlb2j4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efkprqw2.fsf@gnu.org> <87vae19drk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <837eqgrmux.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520964605 5298 195.159.176.226 (13 Mar 2018 18:10:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:10:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 13 19:10:01 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1evoN2-00018e-J9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 19:09:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41777 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1evoP5-0008Ox-Ez for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51561) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1evnfP-0008Kf-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1evnfO-0000F9-7k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:52561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1evnfL-0000Bh-13; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:24:47 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Original-Received: from saiph (unknown [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB8321BF217; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:24:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ngz by saiph with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1evnfI-0000ZL-1R; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:24:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <837eqgrmux.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:55:50 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.201 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223702 Archived-At: Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't think this can be a reliable solution, because there are many > more keys we use in the manuals, like HOME, END, LEFT, RIGHT, UP, > DOWN, PageUp, PageDown, NEXT, PRIOR, EDIT, F1, etc. We can never > reliably hard-code any fixed list and hope to get away with it. It's enough if we can get away with it 99% of the time. For the other 1%, we can write raw Texinfo in the Org document. I can extract a reasonable list from the Emacs Texinfo files. Org is no silver bullet and does not pretend to supersede Texinfo. But it tries to make editing manuals easier in most cases. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738